Proton Australia has dropped three models from its lineup, streamlining its range in the country to three vehicles – the models that have been discontinued are the S16 FLX (the Saga FLX), Persona Elegance and long-serving Gen.2, leaving the Preve, Suprima S and Exora as the automaker’s only offerings there.
Sales have reportedly been slow for the three outgoing models in 2014, with the S16 FLX being the best performer of the trio. Back in March, Proton Cars Australia stated its sales figures for January and February this year as being 48 and 106 units respectively. Reports indicate that the automaker has sold less than 800 vehicles in the country up to December.
The Proton S16 first began selling in Australia in late 2009, and was replaced in the model lineup by the S16 FLX in mid-2012, with two 1.6 litre CamPro IAFM variants, the GX and GXR, each with manual and CVT transmission options, going on sale there.
The last that was heard of the Gen.2 was last year, when it was named the country’s ‘least expensive small car under AUD$35k to own and run’ by New South Wales motoring association NRMA (National Roads and Motorists’ Association) in the association’s annual study of vehicle operating costs.
The Preve made its Australian debut in October 2012 at the 2012 Australian International Motor Show in Sydney, with the GX manual and GX CVT announced as variants. In August 2013, it was reported that pricing for the car had been revised, with both versions AUD$3,000 cheaper than they were at point of launch.
The Suprima S, meanwhile, made its market debut in November last year, while the Exora – in GX and GXR forms – was launched last December, even though it was also shown in Sydney a year earlier.
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Proton mana ‘laku’ sana! Orang jual 2 ribu kereta Jepun tiap bulan, proton cuma 2 tiap bulan.
Baik bungkus, tutp aje!
Yes Proton must stay focus.
Too many models currently for Proton’s small market share
Proton’s export quality way better than here also cannot sell, what do you think the company can survive without perlindungan?
PROTON will speed up their CAMPRO engine improvement direct injection to comply with Euro 5. Just wait and see next 2 years, PROTON will expand their market share in Europe.
next 2 years or 20 years.. so long waiting but yet nothing. Buy Lotus for what?.
Of course nothing if you dun support proton, only banal bash
Yes, Proton please STAY FOCUS to CON Malaysians. Only Malaysian are forced to buy Proton due to its high tax protection on foreign cars. Proton can’t survive with protection. Everyone knew it.
It is ok to dream big (expand to Europe lol), but dream will end up a dream. CAMPRO to comply with Euro5? 20 years should be enough I guess.
Lastly, talk is cheap. @estupido Did you buy the Suprima S and Iriz? Even if you are driving your old Wira/Saga/Iswara/Waja/Gen2/Satria/Tiara/Juara now, you are NOT supporting Proton! You don’t buy their new car, how can they make money? So talk is cheap, show us your action!
No matter campro or mitsu or renault engine.
See what proton did.
Any quality improvement?
Fact is fact,
Proton user will feedback.
As an ex proton user.
Proton lack of quality,
efficiency, safety.
How many years we waited?
What we seen?
Expend in euro market,
the essense are, emission, efficiency, safety, performance.
Which does proton score and stand out from others Jap, german, even korean car?
Korean car is the best example.
improvement are drastically.
The next wave might be China brand.
80-2000, was japs era.
2000- current is korean era.
Future, it could be china era.
Open our eyes, read the world.
Everybody is improving. Except Proton still rely on tongkat.
Using Malaysian tax payers’ money and do nothing.
I was proud while Proton launch.
I was condident with Malaysia.
However, facts and truth tells.
All the mottos, slogans, etc were created to enrich certain people. All money don’t well spend. Our hard earn money easy gone. National & household debt keep rising cause Ringgit keeping depreciate. Our life quality keeping down and down.
It’s no point to keep NFC, Proton, MAS, etc losing money business.
Economy rebuild comes from better economy grow, more job oppoturnity,stable government policy, fair competition.
Stop making joke, build up strength, rebuild our country.
We wish Proton good luck! May the ‘Money God’ hypnotize the car buyers to bring good sales to Proton worldwide.
Get out from cave got.5 star Australasia NCAP you said lack of safety?
So blind.
Hey yo Ah Beng, time for you to work overtime now! Ha ha ha ha!
Not only Ah Beng but all PROTON supporters. This time PROTON really got big project to expand their business. In PROTON we trust!
expanding especially their stock yard. people do car business for sales n proton do car business for storage.
At least Saga are more on road than new catfish Vios!
There are more cockroachs than humans on the road too.
Seese,
Stop fooling yourself.
In UK, Nobody want to buy proton.
That’s the fact.
Saga to be seen more on Malaysia road is not because of its price, quality, efficiency, safety.
We are force to buy Saga in “Cheaper”, “Lower” cost.
Do you know in Malaysia,
if you buy a saga, what you can get in others place with higher spec such ESP, 6 bags, etc?
You can get Jap or Korean C segment easily.
Because of proton, you sacrifice your hard earn money to get low quality , tech, safety moving crap.
Saw many poster are complaining Proton bashes.
Frankly, proton, never improve, will not improve. Main mission of create proton is not “makes ppl car”.
It’s purpose is create “NAP” for rich crony.
Still got buyers in UK last time
get your facts right
I suggest Proton to expand their tow truck service first before expanding other business
Nowadays T needs that more than p1
Lol
Proton Big project! Really?
How much cash from ‘The People’ needed for this Big Project?
Support statement banyak banyak
Watch out! Proton supporters strike back in 3, 2, 1…
Making way for Iriz…hopefully Proton fare better this time around.
Iriz will be “tutup” by all the same range segment out there on AUS…
Because of protection for Govt it only consider nice here.
Wake up jer P1 fanboys…
Proton, the people has spoken. Do what’s right and close shop!
Who are you to tell so, PM kah?
Kahkahkah
Proton, time to close shop
We believe in you, because no Protection for Proton in AU and its easy for Proton to contract deadly disease in AU.
Iris is meant for Asian, not for those big size fella in Aus. If they wan small compact sedan, Polo is not far expensive then proton.
If Iriz is meant for Asian, why bother burn money test it in Europe and called it a Global Small Car?
No excuse and syok sendiri please.
actually…u can see lots of korean car over there. especially i20 and some tucson. even more than jap car.
yes yes. Iriz will be the toppest seller once it hit aussie. even in malaysia the iriz is selling like hot cakes. everywhere you look you’re bound to see an Iriz roaming the roads. it’s as regular as rapidkl busses.
just like there’s lots of prewe and sukimak rstuv roaming the streets. there’s just so many of it on the streets.
once proton starts selling iriz in OZ, people will line up to buy em like iphone.
proton says there’s already 22,000 booking received for the iriz before launch. right now there must be millions of orders. i’ve seen… 1…. 2…. yes 2 iriz on the road. so many people are buying them.
bravo iriz!
aku baru nampak 1 iriz… warna merah… mula2 ingatkan exora… rupa rupanya… iriz… smart sungguh dah la gemuk semacam…
Why you dun go and bash citroen cars, almost like SUV. Because it’s Citroen? Ptuih
well said Maserati!
That cannot beat 3000K p2 orders!
Not me saying! Lolololol
LOL well done Maserati.
You have shown us the finest level of Proton Sendiri Cakap Sendiri Syok lifestyle!!!
Bravo!!
Well I have seen at least about 10 here in Puchong but the best part is most of the cars are the ones that’s in that Sexy Dark Gray colour which proton says is the slowest to arrive to the dealers hum oh and that Green one is extremely sexy as when it catches the sunlight and amount shine that it makes is beautiful
Iriz is a shitbox, Aussie wants UTE. Bye Iriz shitbox.
Shiatty comment
Syiok sendiri attitude never die, eh?
p1 bashers always syiok sendiri, bajet expert, ptuih!!!
harga iriz dgn honda jazz kalau kat australia lebih kurang saja rasanya… sapa nak beli iriz kalau jazz jauh lagi bagus.. cantik pun cantik… kualiti pun ada..
Jazz cantik ke? Macam old shoe aku tengok
Cantik or not, it is subjective. Some also say Lambo ugly. It is personal choice.
But build quality, Jazz definitely win far far ahead. This is objective fact.
Not really. They provide better overall quality for the Australian market. For example, the top Suprima model(aus) had cvt and dohc. Both feature doesnt present for its Malaysian counterparts. So does it build quality. Btw, Im guessing the top of the line Iriz will sell around 14k-16k aud. While top of the line Jazz 25K aud. Harge lebih kurang? Wak luu harga lebih kurang. Pandi2 je ckp harge lebih kurng. Bukak official website la bndingkn satu2. Tu baru betul fakta
wann – fare or far?
Was in Sydney and Gold coast last month and hardly see any Proton Car.
Can not survive in protection market (Bolehland) and want to complete in Australia?
Dreaming kah?
complete or compete?
Pergi minum susu dulu la….
There are too much fake Proton fanboys in Malaysia.
They always shout here shout there support Proton national pride bla bla bla, but they themselves are driving old Waja/Wira/Gen2/Iswara/Satria/Tiara/Juara/Arena etc.
End up new Proton models no one buy, while the fake Proton fanboys are so noisy bla bla bla here.
Talk is cheap (especially Ah Beng), show us your action, buy the Iriz/Suprima S.
what eva lor same lori, toyota fanboys..try so hard to backup vios tikus mondok..
jgn kata kat australia tak laku… kat langkawi pun susah nak laku… hahaha proton… memang global car sungguh.
Ada je proton kat Langkawi.
jgn kata kat Langkawi tak laku… kat Bangsar pun susah nak laku… hahaha proton… memang global car sungguh.
17 percent of proton supporter.
abc is revealing the truth.
Potong created not for national proud.
Dont be fooled by potong and cronies.
We need to face this fact.
Without tax problems there literally is 0 reasons to buy a proton.
At least some p1 are safer than celup Japs cars here.
Vager, Japanese car low spec, low safety rating happen in malaysia because of malaysia high tax and cronism distributor.
Without Potong, fair market policy.
We will get standard spec, and buying jap car at even lower price than potong
Japan and Korea also have NAP. You dont know right? Of course you dont. Kangkung is the best way to describe your knowledge. Worthless.
BEN, 100% agree with you.
All Ministers, politicians and their families members must show leadership by example by buying Proton 1st.
what is the reason to buy a proton in an open market?
No reasonlah, only sohai supporters would buy proton
So you buy what?
3 sohai spotted.
sapa tak beli proton dia tak patriotik! tun mamak cakap. so semua org australia wajib beli. baru la patriotik.
Proton?… Ptui!
Ptui for you!
I’m afraid kindergarten kid can think better than you, pity to your parents!
Then why there are still people buying?
Affordability. The cheapest car with a boot.
if u stayed in aussie land before.
you will know the facts.
Potong can not do sales in aus.
very rare potong spotted on the road.
We can sell cars at dumping prices to foreigners while
Dr. M refuse to allow foreigners to sell cars at dumping prices here. It’s not fair!
This is not free trade.
Is not fair since 30’s years ago.
Automotive industry in bolehland keep falling from “Golden generation”(before Proton) to shameful ages (after Proton).
DrM ego and pride will lead proton to another graveyard.
Indeed, potong created not for country.
it’s for own.
Ego and pride were created to fool you and me.
This fiction want to psycho malaysian to pay
and feel pride/ego.
The fact is . what potong achieve, what we gain, whats the fact, where is the ego and pride?
Look at Tata, gerry, cherry, etc.
Soon, they will overtake and smoke potong until can not see and can not smell the smoke.
Korean Japan USA China also have sort of protection
Welcome to the world kid
They were protected while they are young, but now they have grown to handsome/pretty adults, but Proton is still stunted after 30 years.
Obvious Proton Aus is a loss making venture.. Only reason proton is there is to show rest of world Proton is international car maker.
Other companies run their business on basis of P&L (Profit & Loss).
In Malaysia, our UMMO runs based on Pride and Losses.
It’s not your fama’s company.
It’s crony company
erm….
Nope.. they running PNL too.
Pocket and Loss
Which is what Proton should have done, even over here. Streamline its model lineup to just 3 core models, The Preve series, Exora and currently the Iriz. It worked for Perodua. Cutting the model down can cut cost and also focused or concentrate its ongoing R&D to less model. It also makes the salesman job a hack more easier.
Also regarding Australia selling 800 Protons, Australia themselves have less population than Malaysia (Yes, I’ve checked) Spread in a much vast area, selling 800 cars a year isn’t really that bad. But for a market that achieved last year more than 1 million vehicles yearly, they can do a lot better. Currently dominating the charts are the Mazda 3 and Toyota Corolla with about 39,410 and 40,189 this year(-up to November) respectively. So 800 units for just a brand is sort of little. But than again this are big heavy hitters like Toyota, Hyundai and Mazda is hard to compare, what is really worrying is who is selling more than us….. Great Wall or GWM, which pushed out more than triple of what we did from their two model line-up.
well said
Even the Australians support Toyota more than Proton lol
It does not make any economical sense to buy a proton there and even less economical sense to sell one. Proton should swallow their ego, accept defeat gracefully and close shop.
Agree, Proton should do what’s best for business, not what’s best for ego
I thought doing more business is good for business? If closing shop is good for business, that explains why you hadn’t got one.
If the company is losing money more than earning money, then closing shop is what’s best for business! Btw, i own a business if you know me
That’s loser quality, bolehland needs fighter
@f22r
What loser? Proton that takes money from G is fighter? No wonder the country is getting poorer from people like you. If Proton is a fighter, please compete in an open market and not hide behind NAP coz that’s a real “loser quality”. Haha
@f22r
As a fighter after loses everytime, it go back to they parents for protection???
Proton always loses shares and market then go back to Govt for protection. Ask Govt pay (R&D) for them…. fighter??? or f***ker you tell me.
Close down loss making business and open up a new business is the norm for businessmen all over the world. Proton should keep to this principle.
Accept defeat and tell the world that Malaysians can’t do sh*t? Does it make you feel any better if we become a country of cheap labor than be the ones who build something?
Can, Proton can only cheat own Malaysians but will people outside the country support Proton? Does it make you feel better selling truck loads in Malaysia but not any outside of it?
Many countries can do it, why not bolehland? Only bashers losers run from fighting
Why not? Ask Proton lah. After 20 years still cannot do it?
there is no meaning for potong burn malaysian money anymore.
Proton is just wasting it’s time and resources
selling its cars in the global market.
Not only in Aust..but world wide.
Sales generated cannot even cover the rental for its premises minus the remuneration to staff.
Proton needs a major revamp starting from the top.
No use pumping in millions into R&D when the end
product is a failure. Proton just doesn’t have it to
be a car producer & just accept this fact and move on..
Please take this bold step sooner rather than later
cos Proton is a sinking ship and needs to be revived.
well said.
lose million, billion, trillion,
nobody need to responsible.
Audit pass every year!
iriz is the last hope huhuhuhuhuhu..
Close shop lah, stop giving false hope
Typical loser comment
Typical jaguh kampung supporter comment
If not closing shop then Proton should concentrate in selling the Iriz and the new Proton Saga based on Iriz cheaply to Malaysians.
This is call National Service to the Malaysians by Proton.
Wow, would have been really nice to be one of the branch managers at this outlets overseas, running a car showroom with no customers at all…maybe 1 or 2 in a year, running at a complete loss by not being able to sell more than 10 units a year, plus maintaining a full support staff all shaking legs and makan gaji buta ….what a life, what a job, need to ask them to open in the Caribbean, I would definitely apply to be the branch manager….those islands could be ziiping around in the exora …haha
I have siblings, and I mean more than 1 sibling there whom are now PR in Australia and they don’t even bother bout Proton, so goes with probably few thousand Malaysian PRed there. So there you have it, Proton in reality dah elok tutup kedai je lah. The only way to cure this madness of a cancer is to just cut it off.
Proton, just make new UTE truck like the Arena. Aussie likes UTE and V8 power because STRAYA!!!! IF you don’t want to die Proton just make UTE truck with V8 engine. But I guess its too late so just close your shop Proton.
Proton fanboys don’t needed here.
PM australia umum “1st Proton for Australian Youth”
Does this mean that Proton is planning on winding down and eventually ending manufacturing of the Gen2 (and perhaps the Persona)?
Nope, all the trash from Proton will be dump to Malaysia. Where else can you find “dumping ground” for Proton?
Eh guys,ya I know that the Proton is not really laku in Australia.But,it is better than in Malaysia.You know why,because they still support Proton.They still support,buy Proton car.And we,Malaysian people are……stupid,…..dumb.Why?Because you guys always praise the foreign car manufactures.Eventhough Audi,Toyota,Honda,Volkswagen,Mercedes,BMW car got problem,always broke down,bad quality material use also you guys still praise them like their car got no problem.But when Proton car got Proton car got problem,critics like Mak Cik,your mother stinky mouth at Pasar.Eh,if you got PHD,Master grades also cant think this,i don’t know.And you guys always say that Proton should tutup kedai,you guys must to stop your carrier in Malaysia and go to other country.You guys know what,if got more people like you guys in Malaysia,i think in another 10 years,Malaysia hancur!
#TypicalProtonHaters
#ProtonThenNowForever
#GoGoProton
I honestly second that, Malaysians are dumb to the core. Although I don’t buy proton, I don’t blame every damn thing on it, as if my life revolves around the car. If I want other makes, I work for it and not whine and expect the car to miraculously appear in front of me. Seriously get real. I know most chinamen here disapprove proton’s existence, they’d rather us be a country of cheap labor because that make business sense to them. The difference between Japanese and Chinese, Japanese invent and the world knows this but Chinese are just cheap labors and copy whatever they can. We don’t wanna be like them. Proton needs to pull their act together and do it right.
Now, what is it? Iriz shows an improvement. Come on, dont bash for something you didnt use or didnt know about. Yep, I know it’s harsh but knowing that their build quality have improved than what the Perodua have offered from the overseas technology, it’s something to be supported than to be lamented for “lack of quality”.
I would like to say you never study.
Japs also copy when they start their automotive business.
The first mass production car was done by Nissan.
That time, Nissan was Datsun.
The Datsun SSS series was copy Ford.
Japs copy American.
Korean Copy Japs
China copy Japs, European.
Anything wrong?
Everything start from copy.
Even your study.
Copy is a part of study before own invention.
Eh guys,people in Australia still choose Proton as their car for daily life.And after this Proton will start sell Proton Iriz next year in Australia,UK and I think it will sell like a hotcakes because they like Euro class car like Iriz,Preve and Suprima S.Now also they like to buy Proton car such as Suprima S and Exora GX and GXR as a transport to go work or to go holidays.And I hope that Proton will achieve their goals to enter Euro market with their upcoming Proton SUV that still in RnD stage and got test in a hot place like The Sahara and the upcoming Proton Sa3a that expected to be launch April next year.So please gus,oen your eyes,your heart to support Proton.If you still support foreign car manufactures such as HOnda,Toyota,BMW,Volkswagen,Mercedes, no use.You guys should support our National car manufactures,Proton!!!!Go GO Proton!!!!!
adakah anda seekor lembu?
Raise your standard instead of rude comments.
p1 basher is always rude, what do you expect from them?
What BS are you talking about? No one likes your proton crap especially the UK and it is nothing like a euro car. Take it back to where it comes from
Much better than Japs car, especialy in RnH
R u high on ganja? 800 unit sold is a laughing stock. Keep on dreaming Sell like hot cake. Be real lar……koyak means koyak lor. Our country will soon be koyak if ppl like u keep on high on we are ok we are good without knowing the fact and figure.
You dun study hard of course you end up to work as keyboard warrior, it won’t make you a rich
Katak bawah tempurung.
Did you stay or work in Australia/UK before?
It’s a dumb’s comments
Bro, dude…….Are you “high” on some medical smoke, when you wrote the 2 comments. Malaysian, ALL, malaysian love this country, if not the current gov’t. Most of us dislike proton, NOT because We Don’t Want a National Car, …… Just not a Crap! Company that don’t know how to run a business, but through cronies. And it creates a artificial HIGH TAX ON ALL OTHER CARS, making all citizens “suffer” for a car, just so that it can survive. That is not a fighter company or individual. Not one that ANY SANE person can respect, anywhere on this green earth. Wake up, and see the real world. Stop fooling yourselves.
Sorry dude. I live in Australia and I don’t see as many Proton cars as you assume. Haven’t seen a Suprima before, maybe 1 or 2 exora and preve. I cover 70km on a round trip to work on the busiest roads in Sydney. So, not to say aussies like or dislike Proton, they just can’t be bothered.
thank you proton for making us proud… err, the 5 star ANCAP.
now that teach your engineers, management and planners a thing or two right?
first – there is this an attitude problem regarding proton… and it is called pretentious. now, get rid of it.
second, just give some honest cars to consumers. meaning it has the features but at a reasonable price. proton still holds the record for fastest growing car franchise in UK but that was 25 years ago when Proton Saga was priced to compete with Skoda, Seat, Lada and other budget cars.
below are examples of what i would call pretentious
1. calling waja as asia’s answer to BMW, with look alike VW bora headlamps, alfa 146 duck beak bonnet, BMW curve dashboard towards driver
2. advertised savvy as strong enough to be safe from godzillas.
3. shouting out loud proton exora and preve/suprima CVT gearbox… when ppl all over the world prefer manual transmission which gives better FC, better emission to benefit from taxes. oh yes, automatics are still popularin Japan perhaps, and taiwan and hong kong. go on, try to sell your cars there.
act up like VW Malaysia, by listening to customers (though a little too late). that is better than MAS which finally shut its operation after so many years of losses.
not that we malaysians hate you Proton, its just that if only you (and the magic hand behind the govt) allows Vios/city to be sold at same price as Saga… or Corolla/Civic as much as the C segment Preve/Suprima things may change for the better.
we love you proton, but dont penalise us for the sake of trying to make a business case.
I think Proton should start replacing current saga with 3rd gen model meh… just take Iriz and add a trunk.. easy what…
Saga BLM already old in the market. Dun repeat the same mistake with 1st model Saga. Keep on selling for 20 years. Frm Saga Orient – Mega Valva – Iswara – LMST (1986 – 2006).
Sendiri pun boleh buat, why wait for them?
sapa nak beli kereta mahal.. tgk dekat langkawi pun cukup la… laku ka kereta proton kat langkawi?
org bodo saja akan beli kereta proton kat langkawi…
Yang kau sibuk sangat apesal? Kau bayar cukai berjuta?
Dan Org bodo saja yg sewa Proton kat Langkawi.. hehe
Keta lain sampan handling, x best
Proton, are you selling your leftover stock for S16 in your own bolehland ?
i want to buy it if there are leftover stock for S16.for sure the quality built is farrrrr better than our saga FLX..worth for money is it?
pity proton…more pity to rakyat yg didahulukan…huhu….
If you sell 70 units of Proton cars monthly in the land of kangaroos,just pack up,close shop,Proton.
The overheads in Australia for salaries n showroom rentals will bleed you for the next 5 years.
Orang putihs are very internet savvy,they know Proton’s background inside out.
There are simply too many imported cars without perlindungan there.
Even with everlasting perlindungan,proton is struggling in Boleh Land.There,without perlindungan,Proton,just pull out.Dont waste your time.
If bolehland people dun support p1, why must mat salleh?
Don’t talkok support Proton. Have you bought the latest Suprima S or Iriz?
You are not supporting Proton if you are driving any old Proton, you don’t let Proton earn your money!
Talk is cheap, dirt cheap! Show us the action and get yourself an Iriz.
proton should improved engine first…sucking oil too much…
Its quite tiring to see the politic monkey in every site which touch on the Malaysian industry. Come on, if you want to close your own automotive industry and depends on the outside technology for up to the day you die, perhaps you are the type of morons that didn’t deserve to live the next day. After you close Proton, then what you want to comment on? Such stupid judgement. This is getting ridiculous by day and ass-argument. Raise your standard.
This IS their standard : p1 close shop, US price cheaper, p1 no quality, Japs higher RV, etc
What standard? Without political help, Proton will not exist!
I’ve been cheated by Proton twice. T4 i am done with Proton.
If a company sucks people money and making loses, it is wise to close shop so that it won’t drain more peoples money. If 100% private companies such as TC or UMW or Kah Bintang making loses and still keep operating, who cares!
sohai.
if potong really manage well and doing good.
everybody will buy and treat it as proud of Malaysian.
Be honest la.
Boy, potong is a tools to fill in their pocket.
Dont be childish and naive.
Malaysia could be automotive hub.
but, all investor say good bye and move to thailand.
Do you know how big is the impact?
If you do not understand this.
Sorry, you are naive.
The mug,
Don’t go down to their level, especially fair Kangkung. He kept mixing politics with automotive scene haha. Just by looking at his comments you can tell to him cars are all about resale value, efficiency and reliability. Would love to see him open his trash-mouth at one of our teh tarik sessions with real car guys though hahahaha
Until we see the audited P/L statement report, we may not know how well Proton AUS performance. With 30 outlets selling 800 units, basic math will tell you how AUS buyers demand for Proton cars based of Proton present in AUS since the 2009 (Gen2) that 4 years ago.
An average of 0.2 – 0.3% percentage market share growth, it’s DRH-HICOM financial capability and AUS partners to formulate a sustainable business abroad with a newly launch model of IRIZ.
If rakyat fund not used to bail out Proton AUS, I really don’t give a damn about it. Again it some think that rakyat will never know, because lack of transparency and sedition act enforced.
Why bolehland people are not as patriotic as Japs or Korean or USA people? They do bailing out too. Political reason perhaps? Everybody are greedy for power.
Malaysian do patriotic.
Malaysian like malaysia.
However, see who is ruling
see how they doing
see what s the result.
PKFZ, NFC, C4, Scorpene boat, Missing Flight
Why above happen?
Who made them happen?
Majority malaysian’s income lower than average.
Pay high fuel price, high car tax, import tax.
Where the money goes?
Some naive ppl will say.
British, American, etc pay high tax.
Singaporean pay high COE.
Comon, take note.
Their gov will ensure basic such as security,
medical, human rights, equality.
Especially police enforcement.
In US/UK, people pay high tax, but low car price.
In emergency such as accident, even bitten by snake, Helicopter will send you to the hospital even in rural area.Above just story about western.
Look at asia nearby country.
You buy a house(HDB). Interest rate is below 1.5% (Both gov and bank). Everybody can own his own house. Stable resale value, stable rental rate. Security? it could be one of the safest country in the world.
Yup. Naive ppl will say, its expensive there.
But I want to tell you. Their income and expenses ratio is healthy.
Extremist will say, singaporean can not afford buy car. If you really went there before. The public transportation is well done! You dont even need to own a car there.
Super extremist will quote.
If you dont like malaysia, you can migrate or out of Malaysia.
Actually, I do believe Malaysian like Malaysia. This is the place we born and grow.
We like peace and harmony.
However, blood sucker people keep sucking Malaysian money. Ruling incompetance policy and bring down education standard.
Keeping fooling people. Easier control people.
Know the facts, do the right things,\
giving hope to our next generation.
proton is so delusional……
Proton is soooooo delusional until making loss means making profit for them….
No wonder the whole car market in Malaysia is soooo screw-up…
Wow…
People here talk like they know the automotive world inside out. Proton have their issues no doubt, but remember the most common cars on our roads are Myvis and Vios. Says a lot about our automotive mindset. Just to add, even German cars have issues so no need to kecoh satu kampung about Proton’s issues. It’s obviously easy to bash, but to come up with solutions? Suddenly everyone is an expert zzz…
Proton bashers are always syiok sendiri acting as experts here, that’s why
A. Good service = Selling low price + high quantity,
B. Good service = Selling high price + low quantity
C. Bad reliability = High performance + more maintainance
D. Bad reliability = Corrupted management +poor performance + more maintainance.
Fact is fact.
The German brand u quoted are B+C
Potong is D only.
Aiyo fair Kangkung,
Don’t mix politics with automotive la, some more simply call other people naive and self-proclaimed “educated”. Educated people don’t talk so much like you, there’s a Malay phrase called “tong kosong” and you fit the phrase perfectly.
Cars are subjective, not everyone will agree on ones opinion, what’s good for you does not mean it’s good for others. Just respect other people’s view, stop thinking too much and just enjoy cars. Simply bash people, I don’t think you even know how to change a spark plug hehe
proton just dont have a product which says buy me instead of the competition, the model range are pretty confusing, keep having new names for every new model, no continuity. Technical aspects are always behind and too slow to catch up, the only thing they are trying to sell is just ‘cheap’. what it needs the to have is some sorts of the korean leap towards design, quality and technical ability.
more models + more variants = more chance
invest more R&D cost, more tooling cost,
more business partner, more pocket money.
They are trying to save more Aussie lives. LOL…Ugly trueth
I remembered watching top gear episode 6 of season 20 I think where they line up every single automotive product made in Britain.
Someday, I want to be able to do like top gear did one day and line up all of our locally made/assembled cars with pride. We are slow but at least we are trying and kept on improving. Before this Proton was known as a moving coffin, now we got 5 stars safety cars. Slowly and surely we will get there.
Firstly,Proton successful or not depend on Ali not ah beng or muthu. If Ali don’t like proton then proton can tutup kedai. My bumi neighbors I hardly see any new proton in their car porch. Why they dont buy proton? Ask Proton.
Educated people understand why not to buy a potong.
Not only because of dirty politic and policy.
But also main reason. C/P is sucks.
Vios/City/Almera/Fiesta becomes the first choice even some of those car do not score high in ANCAP.
Unbeatable reliability, effiency, quality, value,etc.
Potong dubbing in this industry years.
Achieve non of above.
People knowledge grows higher.
They know what’s the basic, what is truth and facts.
Facts never breaks.
Potong fanboy, i m sorry to say so.
Either naive or corrupted ppl will keep praising
or keep supporting potong.
Potong already potong malaysian A LOT!
See what I mean? The best cars to drive does not place reliability, efficiency and good value as priorities. If everyone thinks like you, our automotive scene will only be filled with Japanese cars, which is very sad for car enthusiasts. Tells a lot about u la fair Kangkung. Haha you are the second funniest guy on Paultan after Sam Loo, same mindset, same motormouth. Most probably comes from the same womb.
See what I mean? The best cars to drive does not place reliability, efficiency and good value as priorities. If everyone thinks like you, our automotive scene will only be filled with Japanese cars, which is very sad for car enthusiasts. Tells a lot about u la fair Kangkung. Haha you are the second funniest guy on Paultan after Sam Loo, same mindset, same motormouth.
Proton, Do NOT exit Aus. Do a long term marketing plan.
1. Who are the owners’ of Proton there. in 3 years, ring them and invite for an interview. get their feedback, cust service and the satisfaction. Keep it for your 2nd stage marketing program.
2. improve SC quality (I guess Proton’s build quality is premium compared to MY protons)
3. Driver experience event. Peugeot did it, Merc did it. you may get attention from youngster to the brand.
4. Concentrate on few model may help you to focus on marketing side
5. Agree with some of the comment on wira based SUV.
6. Proton shld copy Lotus’s business plan. Buy Celica engine and concentrate on car dynamic, composite research, design etc. Elise is a good example. It has beautiful chassis and even Hennessy tweaked the chassis to build a Venom GT.
7. If you can, transfer some Lotus’s engineering division to MY. grow the engineering culture here. Offer engineering services & products to other business. If a McLaren trusts Lotus, why can’t Proton replicate the success?
8. People need better engine. do research. What happened to E-01 engine? Is Campro technology derived from E-01?
9. If you cannot build the engine, buy. Do a reverse engineering. Secretly build a copy of the engine. Do it for your engineers’ playground in order to build a better engine in the future.
10. if you buy the engine, concentrate on drivetrain, suspension, composite, etc.
Its not the end of the world, what proton should do is to improve market perception. All cars have their own problem; don’t make it your excuse to fall.
BTW I am still a Perodua user for 10 years now. I am not favor on your FC, auto gearbox and engine refinement. Produce a decent car, I am happy to put my money on you.
My Dad have a Wira 1.6 Auto (1995) and myself a Satria 1.6 Manual (1996). Both cars have reaches 300,000 km mileage and yet both cars are still roadworthy.
To many peoples Proton made cars are built with bad, inferior or no quality but as far as I am concerned the Wira and Satria are built for ENDURANCE and I believe these 2 models will be able to sustain the Malaysia road condition and weather for another 10 years but of course with the continuous and proper maintainance.
What proton cars really need is a new engine. The campro engine has been around for far too long and its not exactly a good fuel efficient engine. It needs a fresh technology injection.
Quality wise I feel that proton has improved quite a fair share for the price. Still not cheap for its quality but that is due to its low volume which makes it relatively expensive to produce.
I am Proton loyal since 1998. Very satisfied owner. Just the economics of scale/scope dampen Proton effort. If Toyota/Honda launch products, they have tested them somewhere else. When arrived in Malaysia, these cars have bee proven. But Proton don’t have many places to test. Proton have very good engineers. As for now, of course Proton cannot compete with Japan, Korea, but we are better than many other countries in this field. As a matter of fact, Proton is the only “Islamic” manufacturer in the world.