Here’s our very first look at the upcoming Proton Iriz-based B-segment sedan, courtesy of the Facebook page Campro Lover. This is likely the next-generation Proton Persona mentioned by Proton chairman Tun Mahathir Mohamad, said to be arriving in showrooms sometime next year.
Despite the heavy camouflage, the car’s Iriz roots are clear to see here – the almond-shaped wraparound headlights, A-pillars placed far forward and discrete side mirrors on the doors are similar to those found on its hatch sibling. But it’s the bit aft of the B-pillars which we are more interested in.
Here, the rear doors are different from the Iriz, with a C-shaped kink in the window line that is reminiscent to what you’d find on the current Civic sedan. It’s a departure from the Prevé – which shares all four doors with the Suprima S hatch on which it’s based – as well as some sedan versions of certain cars such as the Mazda 2, Mazda 3, Ford Fiesta and Ford Focus.
Expect the Iriz’ current powertrain choices – 1.3 litre and 1.6 litre VVT four-cylinder mills, mated to either a five-speed manual or a CVT – to be carried over. One question remains concerning the suspension – the outgoing Persona features a sophisticated rear multi-link setup, so it’s up in the air whether its replacement will continue with such a system, or revert to the Iriz’ cheaper, simpler torsion beam suspension.
With the new Persona slotting under the C-segment Preve (previously touted as the Persona’s replacement), Proton will feature a four-strong sedan lineup by the end of 2016 – the flagship Honda Accord-based Perdana will arrive first, in the first quarter of next year, while a new Saga will follow after the Persona. Whatever form will the next Saga take, however, is anyone’s guess…
GALLERY: 2014 Proton Persona Executive
the wheels.. they looks too damn small..
Perodua no worry they cant beat you.
Yeah they can, in term of Safety,handling ;)
If proton making all their new model with Stability control and airbags as standard equipment.
Other than that, just depend on people mindset
Now is rainy season, I feel more confident driving cars with stability control with good handling in the rain.
*just saw a the new vios lost control in the Plus highway, well our highway road quality still not that good, there still some puddles on the highway when raining. Thats where the S.C kicks in to stabilise your car.
Safety 1st, save lives, save money.
what safety and handling? what quality? what interior built? these are the ones proton dont have and will never have. this iriz sedan is a failure already. it is sad to say but it is a fact. I am not saying MyVi is better but trend shows proton must not enter their domain.
i have driven all proton cars and they are getting worse each time.
You are faking and manipulate the fact here. Read and understand the news before you start blindly bashing bout Proton.
Of course lah, because if sales drop sikit or short of target also they (perutdua) will make lots of ’empty’ noise and blaming here and there as nowadays those banks already tightening their lending requirement to those car hirer/purchaser. Plus, they currently have to depend on Axia to survive (current new Myvi Lagi Bahlul facelift is like taik already – somemore damn ugly, not worth to buy anymore compare with previous old Myvi). Besides, they already tap into university/college students market to get as more as possible sales.
The introduction of new Perdana, Persona and Saga shows the commitment of our national car maker to produce good quality car to resist the poor market perception towards Proton. It’s a new Proton under DRB-HICOM not the old Khazanah. The R&D and Procurement people were working until late night to ensure that there three model will be introduce by this year. The introduction of Iriz had shown that Proton capable to produce one of the finest and safest car with cheaper price even the volume is low comparing to world market. So, let us hope that these new model will be as well.
whaaaaaaaaaata…
Saiz tayar kecil adalah hasil rekaan jurutera tempatan yang bersusah payah berlayar ke Monaco dengan kapal layar disewa dari kerajaan Sulu. Tinjauan di Monaco mendapati tayar kecil sesuai untuk menggelecek selekoh dengan cantik. Kita mesti hargai usaha lawatan kerja pihak Proton ke Eropah.
wow…dare to hire sulu ship just to sail to monaco?
Good development, however we prefer a turbo
1litre turbo arnd 170Nm to 180Nm good enough
Pihak Petronas sedang memepertimbangkan cadangan pihak tuan. Kalau berminat untuk membuat dan membekal modul turbo, sila dapatkan lesen pembekal di Petronas Menara 1 tingkat 64 berserta kod SWEC P12020. Ekuiti syarikat tuan harus 93% bumiputera dan 7% warganegara Turki muslim yang rajin berselawat.
from the look of it, i think this car will look like a prius…hybrid maybe?
quite agree.
that bigboot can put cells.
And as with most B-segment and C-segment sedans these days that aim to give larger volumetric figures for the rear space and boot, they raised the rear beltline high up.. making the C-pillar portion look like a large flat wall with small wheels at the bottom.. Even the front end looks like a large hill with small wheels at the bottom..
“Expect the Iriz’ current powertrain choices – 1.3 litre and 1.6 litre…”
Should be expect the only powertrain in Proton – 1.3 and 1.6 … what else do they have? Mana itu petronas engine yang di heboh heboh?
Petronas dah reject CV engineer proton sebab tak ada master dan tak cukup pengalaman pasang enjin. Tak sekufu sebab enjin Petronas direka oleh pemegang PhD dan ia dijamin halal.
Engineer yang solat cukup 5 waktu dijemput memohon jawatan eksekutif enjin di Petronas untuk secondment ke Proton. Kontrak 7 bulan boleh claim OT tapi kalau demam tak boleh pergi Prince Court. Sila ke klinik kerajaan.
What an idiot statemeny
They neglected their two core products and strength Saga Persona for too long instead wasted money on low volume models like the Supima and ugly Preve inc FAILURE IRIZ..since im jobless and a genius vs the current p1 management they should sack them and hire me as ceo
Jawatan Eksekutif Enjin di Petronas masih dibuka untuk permohonan. Sila muat naik CV anda di laman web Petronas dan tulis “JANGAN REJECT CV SAYA” pada tajuk di cover letter dengan font Arial saiz 18 dan berwarna biru.
Lawak la u. Kasi like.
Hi Paultan, could you make a review about CVT transmission, a good cvt and a bad one. I think it will benefits most of peoples out there including me of course.
p.s. and the thriller for this car begin
yup.. its good.. and make comparison between cvt and normal gear. and also the mainatenance and its effieciancy..
Cvt have different manufacturer too… like Proton “punch cvt” yet high fuel consumption no need for comparison.
And is it true that CVT transmission have low mileage before the engine needs to be overhaul?
Kalau rosak, pihak Proton akan menaja penerbangan tuan ke Afrika Selatan untuk menyeleggara CVT di makmal kami di selatan Johannesburg. Penginapan dan airport transfer tidak disediakan.
no loh,if you want to get more lucky to get a job, make sure you wake up early and no bath,go interview first at genting highlands,timesquare or ‘kedai pinjaman wang’ around klang valley meh..go to 4th floor,not 3b lor..then put moon cake under a tree and pray sohaiii
Very like 4th gen City. Dugong lookalike especially with the angular sloping front
Well, since the Iriz is the successor to the Savvy(as Proton says eventhough the Savvy is an A Segment Hatch while the Iriz is a B Segment Hatch),This is probably the successor to the Saga FLX and not the Persona as this is based on the Iriz which is a B Segment Hatch and the Saga FLX is a B Segment Sedan.While the Persona is somewhere in between a B Segment and a C Segment sedan.The car in the spyshot is probably a Saga not a Persona.As for the looks of the car, I think it looks nice with a rear that looks like a Mazda 2 Sedan and the side looks like a Mazda 2 Sedan and a Honda City combination with an Iriz front.This is probably going to have the same engines that could be found on the Iriz.But I hope this will also have Proton’s new 1.3 CFE that was showcased earlier at the Alami Proton event.That engine is going to be in the facelifted Iriz thats going to come out in the next year or so.I have high hopes on this Proton sedan and I hope Proton will not dissatisfy me.
Hi, sources suggest the Iriz-based sedan model will indeed be badged as the Proton Persona.
Little is known of the next Saga as of yet.
Oh ok, well thats good to know.Well lets hope that the Saga is going to be the replacement of the current Persona and this Persona is the replacement of the Saga as the old Persona was a bit of an oddball as it was bigger than the average B Segment Sedan but smaller than C Segment Sedans.So the next Persona turns into a B Segment Sedan while the Saga turns into what is the current Persona.
what you talking about?
iriz sedan –> persona replacement
god knows —> saga replacement
what is saga replace persona, persona replace saga thing?
Well, from what I understand that this Iriz Sedan (dubbed the Persona) is the replacement of the Saga which is a B Segment Car, while the current Persona is a C Segment Car which already has a replacement, the Preve.The Saga nameplate on the other hand will be used on another segment Proton model.So that means that the Saga nameplate will no longer belong on a B Segment Sedan Proton and on another Proton model hence the Saga nameplate is ruined.
SAGA 3 project were done concurrently as well the p2-28 perdana..p2-31a persona and dubbed as p2-13a for the saga…all these models expected to launch next year…rumors said…they will be around feb 2016 for perdana….june 2016 for persona and last around september 2016
Sorry p4-28b for perdana
P4-90B la ngang.
Don’t care…just close shop lah…
ioma is right.
P4-90B is the correct codename for the 2016 Perdana.
funtasticko.net reported the wrong information.
I have just corrected the Wikipedia info.
Dr M mentioned before, the new SAGA will still be based on modified current SAGA platform. The new PERSONA will be Iriz based.
it can only be a persona if its an extended/modified chassis of the iriz…i think thats why some do mistaken the spyshot with the next saga simply bcos of the dimensions…hard to determine from the pics.
id love the independent rear suspension on the new persona bt seriously it makes no sence to do it simply bcos of costs n all of its competitors are using torsion beams…
Proton punya sedan line-up
A-segment : None
B-segment : Saga, Persona
C-segment: Preve
D-Segment : Accordana
If the Iriz is a B-segment hatch and a sedan is made out of its platform, technically it should become the new Saga. Then the Persona can be retired lah, why does proton need 2 B-segment sedans? Unless you tell me the Saga is an A-segment sedan which I find very hard to believe.
maybe proton will rearrange their line-up..new saga will push to A-segment. Persona which is base from iriz remain in B-segment.
Kekeliruan segmen tidak sepatutnya menjadi isu. Tanggungjawab kita beli saja dan bayar GST. Dana ini penting untuk menampung kos persaraan pegawai kerajaan gred Jusa dan Turus yang dijangka panjang umur.
You left out C-segment: Inspira
Gonna stop by year end
Or the new Saga will be re-categorized as a A-segment sedan. Pitting it against the Axia if the Suzuki based a-segment failed to materialise.
I’ve asked the ambiguity of those segmentation to Proton CTO, En Rashid during IRIZ owner engagement talk at COE the other day. He said that Persona indeed a B-Segment, and Saga is an A+ segment, not exactly in B-Segment. So it’s clear now that new Persona will be derived from IRIZ hatch, which is B-Segment. New Saga soon will still in A+ Segment form. So there’s no redundance of C-segment Preve.
p/s: This explains Inspira, another C-segment retirements.
Interior-wise, the New Persona should be more spacious than the New Saga.
Correction:
A+ -segment : Saga
B-segment : Persona
C-segment: Preve
D-Segment : Perdana
Correction 2.0:
A+ -segment: Saga
B -segment : Persona/IRIZ
C -segment : Preve/Suprima S
D -Segment : Perdana
^_^
Correction 2.1
A+ -segment: Saga No RV
B -segment : Persona/IRIZ No RV
C -segment : Preve/Suprima S No RV
D -Segment : Perdana No RV
new toyota vios+ can drift
Saga is more like an A-segment car….it’s too small compare to B-segment nowadays…B-segment has grown a lot bigger.
hopefully it won’t repeat the quality failure on preve
Proton pls close so we can afford import car thx.
Close Perodua 1st bcos a lot ppl buy.
If proton close, then seller of toyota and honda will increase the price, because customer must buy car and they got no other choice…agree?
Close Perodua, force 30% buyer to buy pricey Toyota with good quality but not as good as expected.
Pls find better engine and transmission. And improve fit and finish! Tq
Good progress, but if still using outdated and high fuel consumption Compro engine than this car will be no future, and no export future. just replace old campro engine to better one with more lighter, more fuel saving, Euro 5 compatible.
remember next year Perodua will have Sedan too, if sell like hot cake, than Proton prepare to close shop.
Is the new iriz vvt engine still a campro? Didn’t they stop using the name campro after gen2? I’ll stick with 4g15, if the new engine has poor fuel eco, might as well use the old engine..
all proton car now still using Campro engine, what ever CFE, VVT, IAFM+ all still campro engine. just a bit different configuration. but at the end still old campro engine should retire 2010.
:x
It’s still a Campro. The reason they dumped Campro name for Iriz is because nama Campro sudah busuk.
“Proton – filling landfills since 1983”
Toyota – killing pipu since the Age of Dinosaurs with its Jurassic engine, Triassic chassis, and Cretaceous gearbox
I saw Myvivaxia coffin at Perodua SC
I trust more on Proton aftersales rather than bloody suckers Ford and Volkswagen. If the next generation Persona is from the Iriz, then we can expect acceptable good build quality. The only let down is the powertrain
i’d rather choose VW for the good looking, comfortable and handling than other. P1 need to improve more to make me impress
Proton n Perodua cheating ppl with low quality products with higher price. Pls close down
Perodua only cheating ppl bcos Proton only earn RM500 per car n what u can expect the quality? Telling the truth Perodua earn 12k per car with lousy quality.
Yawn…. When launch, expect this thing to garner a big media fuzz, praised and puji tak terhingga by local motoring journalists. In the end, many people talk about it, even more people discuss about it but nobody wants to buy it… Sales still lost to Perodua.
Even though Myvi is officially a 10-year-old model, it still beats Iriz in sales volume. Proton should look into the mirror and get into their biggest weakness- quality issues. Majority of Malaysian car buyers had totally lost faith in Proton. It seem that Proton main priority of doing business is to protect their cronies more than anything else, even to the price of bleeding the company to death!
My prediction is accurate after all, Proton sales volume DOES decline into 15% TIV this year, losing market share of 2% per annum, despite launching one new junk after another in the name of Preve, Suprima and Iriz. Come next year, I’ll change my name to “Proton achieving 13% TIV in 2016”. In another 5 years time, Proton will fall below 10% of the TIV, effectively becoming a MINORITY IN ITS HOME MARKET, a “feat” no other car maker in the world can achieve, let us cheer for Proton to Proton! Yeah! Jaguh Kampung Boleh!
You can shout, scream, kick the wall, say whatever you want, such as “Proton make its own car with R&D”, “Perodua just rebadge cars” bla…bla..bla. A business that claim this claim that but losses money in the end is a syiok sendiri business. From a business standpoint, Perodua is a big success, Proton is a failure. Anyone wanna prove me wrong? Mana fanboys? Ha ha
Kegagalan Proton membuka semula operasi di United Kingdom bukan bermakna Proton gagal selamanya. Mungkin Proton lupa memperbaharui lesen dengan kerajaan tempatan di sana.
Kegagalan kita untuk setia kepada kereta tanah tumpah darahku, itulah kegagalan hakiki.
Orang sebut pasal kejatuhan Proton dalam pasaran tempatan awak pula cakap pasal pasaran Uk pula? Awak ok tak?
Proton tutup kedai di UK bukan kerana persoalan lesenlah, ia disebabkan enjin Campro yang digunakan oleh Proton gagal memenuhi piawai pencemaran udara EU (Kesatuan Eropah). Lagipun, Proton sudah banyak tahun tak laris di sana, adalah amat logik dan munasabah untuk wakil penjualan di sana bertukar kepada kepada jenama lain daripada mampus bersama dengan Proton, orang putih pun kena cari makan juga, tepuk dada tanya selera.
Sebut pasal ketaatan ini, awak sangatlah lucu. Apakah kaitan kesetiaan kepada negara boleh bertindih dengan persoalan kebebasan untuk memilih jenama kereta dalam pasaran terbuka? Bagi seorang pengguna, katerianya cukup mudah saja. Kalau produk yang dihasilkan itu berkualiti tinggi dan memuaskan pengguna, pastinya akan menerima sambutan yang bagus. Cuba awak lihat kualiti kereta Proton, macam hampeh! Itulah sebab majoriti orang Malaysian tak nak sokong Proton!
Ini bukan soal ketaatan, ini soal nilai yang dapat dipulangkan kepada para pengguna selepas mereka membeli produk engkau dengan hasil titik peluh sendiri. Kalau produk engkau bagus, tak payah dasar perlindungan pun engkau mampu berdiri gagah (macam jenama Korea). Kalau produk macam hampeh, para pengguna akan menolak engkau biarpun ada dasar perlindungan. Kalau tak mampu bersaing, gulung tikar saja, buat apa nak rugi serta menyusahkan orang lain?
masalahnya sekarang, pengguna2 yang mengatakan kereta proton produk kualiti yang hampeh tu kebanyakkannya membeli kereta2 buatan negara lain yang sama kualiti hampeh dengan proton.
yang nampak proton macam banyak masalah sebab basher bangang dan jugak puak2 yang menggembar-gemburkan masalah kereta mereka. kalau ikutkan masalah, semua kereta ada masalah tak kira brand. masuk saja forum2 kereta brand lain, banyak masalah macam proton juga tapi mereka tak gembar-gemburkan macam proton kena.
saya suka komen-komen dari Gold Avanza, kipidap
Yes, you right. Perodua successful turn Malaysian into rubbishman, hooray!!!
no worries abt cvt rsnye.. sbb new line-up will be using jatco-source cvt as talked wth their transmisison engineer masa Alami br2 ni.. hopefully they will materialise it.
now, very hepi wth my iriz (sll in iriz rather than estima).. haha.. small fun car ma.. both using cvt fyi.
I was wondering why Proton decided to use Punch CVT in the beginning when there was Jatco CVT. Glad they decide to switch over. I was hoping the new E01 engine is matched with Aisin 6 speed auto instead. Or a manual gearbox.
Hehehe… fully business purpose…
surprise surprise!
they’re considering Jatco
#alamiproton
The reason is simple: Some big shots has vested interest in the Punch supplier. Even though the engineers knew that Punch is a sucks-to-the-max CVT, they have no choice but to stick to this unrefined, noisy and gas guzzling gearbox, because some “orang atasan” say so. In the same scenario, Proton designers did a good job, but their final product will always be spoiled by lousy quality parts supplied by cronies. That’s why Proton is good in its design and concept but the execution is always a big failure. This is the NO.1 reason why consumers’ confidence towards Proton had dwindled to the point of no return.
This is also the exact reason that kills Proton : Rent seekers and cronies who make lucrative deals which defeat all business sense and technical logic. Proton, in essence, is not a company aimed to produce good car for consumer, it’s a milk cow for the cronies and rent-seekers to make easy money at the expenses of Malaysian consumer.
Yes, totally agree with you. Generally proton has good technical capacity to produce car with decent quality and refinement. However it is always the decision by the ‘orang atasan’ to appoint cronies as vendors and which brings the quality down the drain. With few chats between them, any quality issues can be ‘closed’.
I like how the people inside are smiling
WHY OH WHY Proton needs so many models is beyond me. Just focus on Iriz for small car, Saga for lower end segment, Preve for medium segment, Perdana for high end segment, and Exora for MPV segment, enough la!…
No need this Persona and Suprima…, even the decision to release Inspira is questionable… focus on quality for Iriz,Saga,Preve,Perdana, and Exora.
Apparently some higher ups want new cars, i’ll prefer the older protons pre-gen2 era, today naming scheme doesn’t make sense.. I guess they still under the influence quantity over quality..
persona is the second best seller for p1 bro.. saga is the first, iriz is the third. Persona is really necessary for p1. Why they make too many models? maybe they aims high but definitely not achieving it yet. Regardless, Iriz is a beginning of something good for p1.
Too late. .all those trash already flooded the market & BTW another “clearing old trash” coming soon
dont u think current p1 lineup is rather too small? not many option to choose..some other oem have several model of same segment.
I totally agree with u but, then again, Proton tak ambik kesah pun apa kita komen. Pertingkatkan kualiti adalah lebih baik daripada mempelbagaikan model. Current models pon dah lebih dari cukup. Previous models dulu pun ada yang lebih baik in term of quality.
Proton, pls look into the seat issue.. Since gen 2, all of its models offer hard cushioning, feel stiff when u r in the car.. Pls get something slightly plush..
Test Iriz seat already? Same issue?
If Proton intends to still continue using the Campro engine and the current CVT transmission, I suggest Proton do more in NVH. Its far more cost effective than investing into other things to improve the cabin quality. By comparison, Proton’s NVH is almost the same across its models.
Test iriz already?
any piece of fugly,lowest quality piece of ‘Junk’ from protong. Go design and improve your own engine first! Automobile business is Not about cut and paste from various manufacturers.
You’re basically insulting P2 the most there instead of Proton.
Nice, nice. Proton’s most successful models have always been ‘three-box’ sedan cars in the RM30k to RM60k range. From the original 1980s Saga, 90s Iswara, Wira, 2000s Persona and finally the second gen. Saga; these are Proton’s top sellers.
While it’s true that the original Saga, Iswara and Wira had Aeroback hatchback versions, they still look like ‘three-box’ sedans, albeit with a shorter rear overhang. A more accurate term for this design is ‘notchback’. Nowadays, most B and even C-segment sedans look more ‘notchback’ than sedan/ saloon; this is because automobile engineers want to maximize interior cabin space and boot volume. In other words, the ‘three-box’ shape, common among 80s and 90s sedans are actually very inefficient, and although the boot is ‘longer’, it’s shallower and cabin space is sacrificed for no reason, other than maybe style and aesthetics.
From the spy photo, it’s clear that Proton has followed up with the market trends. The ‘three-box’ shape is less pronounced, unlike the old Persona. The tall rear roofline and smooth rear windscreen drop-off means it should theoretically have a huge boot. Proton’s ‘chamfered’ design is also there, in keeping with their older models. I hope they will retain the Iriz’s wing mirrors, it will stand out from the other B-segment sedans.
The bad news ? This new Persona will most probably kill the Iriz (like how the Persona killed the GEN-2/ Saga BLM killed the Savvy)… and I’m very sure Proton knows it. Because even today, the ancient Persona still sells strongly at the expense of the Iriz’s sales. Proton will have to carefully plan out how they intend to market the Iriz and Persona side by side, without cannibalising each other’s sales.
Lionel Messi also support Tata group the proud owner of Jaguar Land Rover. How about you?
LOL somehow, I knew you were going to say that.
Aero.. I don’t think that this persona can kill iriz.. Mainly due to the iriz itself is quite a car.. Not perfect but worth for money .. In comparison with gen2 story, the car itself when was introduce have many problems and even tainted the p1 name, as far as I know.. Yes, persona success mainly due to longer boot but I believed it also due to the problms w gen2 itself.. Secondly, if this persona can kill iriz then it also means it can kill myvi.. So, I don’t think so.. Hehe.. Compact car really have their own fan… Just my thought ;)
Hi Oni, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Well, we’ll never know for sure. :] But lets hope for the best. I definitely believe the new Persona will be a hot seller (if the current pricing is maintained, below RM55k), no doubts there. Because Proton has a monopoly on the most affordable sedan cars. The cheapest, serious alternative is the Nissan Almera 1.5 AT, which is RM68k.
I don’t approve of this monopoly though… but it’s the truth.
Finally, a good and brilliant comments…
Keep it up bro..
For me, I may sell my Iriz for Persona.. furthermore , the need for a proper family car arise sooner then I expected..
Enjoying my 1.3 MT Iriz so much
Base on the redering, current Persona have a better rear design
Its saga r. As per prev rendering
Mobil Proton paling aman nyaman dengan harga paling terjangkau.
Hope they are not using campro based timing belt engine. Cannot sell bro. Nobody want timing belt engine anymore. Wake up Proton. For cvt , don’t use the Punch. Cheap but unreliable. Use the best, Jatco cvt.Nissan even use them on Murano.
Just a thought. I have no evidence for this at all, its just speculation. But what if this is the new saga and a face lifted preve is the new persona. Would be a more sensible thing to do if you ask me. One b segment and one c segment sedan
Stupid car.
letih2 dan penat korang bashing, puji dan bertengkar kat sini…end of day 99.9% of malaysian buying car by not refer to all this shit comment